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Garmin Forerunner 165 Music Renewed is a GPS running smartwatch with a 43 mm AMOLED display, built-in GPS and music playback. Its training features and downloadable music suit runners who want workout guidance and phone-free listening, while the listed battery life varies by operating mode.
At a glance
- Built-in GPS supports pace and distance tracking without relying on a phone for those measurements.
- AMOLED touchscreen is paired with traditional button controls.
- Downloadable music and compatible wireless headphones allow listening without carrying a phone. Streaming-service playlists require a subscription.
- Daily suggested workouts adapt to performance and recovery, and Garmin Coach and race-adaptive plans are listed.
Reference price: £195.52
Price checked: 14 Nov 2026
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Pros and cons
Pros
- The combination of touchscreen and physical buttons offers two ways to navigate during training.
- Music can be stored on the watch for phone-free listening with compatible wireless headphones.
- The listing describes tailored workout suggestions and plans for specific events.
Cons
- GPS-mode battery life is listed as up to 19 hours, substantially shorter than the smartwatch-mode figure, so frequent long GPS sessions may mean more charging.
Technical specifications
21 specifications| Brand | Garmin |
|---|---|
| Model | Forerunner 165 Music Renewed |
| Screen size | 43 Millimetres |
|---|---|
| Screen technology listed | AMOLED |
| Resolution | 341 x 341 |
| Maximum display brightness | 1000 Nit |
| GPS | Built-in GPS |
|---|---|
| Activity profiles | 25+ built-in activity profiles include running, cycling, HIIT, strength and more. |
| Metrics measured | Distance, Heart Rate, Sleep Duration, Step Count |
| Wireless connection listed | Bluetooth |
|---|---|
| Input | Buttons, Touchscreen |
| Compatible phones | Compatible with iOS and Android devices |
| Battery life listed | 11 days |
|---|---|
| Battery life by mode | Up to 11 days of battery life in smartwatch mode and up to 19 hours in GPS mode |
| Battery type | Lithium Ion |
| Form factor | Round |
|---|---|
| Band material | Silicone |
| Band closure | Buckle |
| Water resistance listed | Water Resistant |
|---|
| Music playback | Download songs to your compatible watch, including playlists from Spotify, Amazon Music or Deezer (subscription required), and connect with your wireless headphones for phone-free listening. |
|---|---|
| Training guidance | Reach your goals with personalised daily suggested workouts that adapt based on performance and recovery; use Garmin Coach and race adaptive training plans to get workout suggestions for specific events. |
What to know before buying
- Battery estimates are mode-specific: the listing says up to 11 days in smartwatch mode and up to 19 hours in GPS mode. Music service playlists require a subscription, and downloaded tracks need compatible wireless headphones for phone-free listening. The stated water resistance level has no rating or depth specified here.
What’s in the box
Included- Forerunner 165 Music
- Charging cable
- Documentation
Who is it for?
A good fit for
- Runners wanting built-in GPS and pace and distance tracking.
- People seeking workout suggestions and race-training plans on the watch.
- Listeners who want downloadable music for phone-free runs and have compatible wireless headphones.
Less suited to
- Buyers needing a stated water-resistance rating or depth before choosing a watch.
- Those who need a long battery figure specifically for GPS use, as the listed GPS-mode estimate is up to 19 hours.
Customer reviews on Amazon
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The supplied evidence contains aggregate ratings but no customer-comment summary. The ratings are strongly positive, with the distribution concentrated in four- and five-star categories, but they do not explain what buyers liked or disliked. Treat them as a limited overall signal rather than evidence about GPS accuracy, battery performance, renewed condition or music use.
Frequently asked questions
Can the Forerunner 165 Music play music without a phone?
The listing says songs can be downloaded to the compatible watch and played through compatible wireless headphones. Playlist downloads from Spotify, Amazon Music or Deezer require a subscription.
How long does the battery last?
The listing states up to 11 days in smartwatch mode and up to 19 hours in GPS mode. These are different operating modes, not a single interchangeable battery estimate.
Does it work with iPhone and Android phones?
The listing says it is compatible with iOS and Android devices and lists Bluetooth connectivity.
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